WILLIAM THOMAS DISCUSSES CHEMTRAILS WITH MERIA HELLER

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10/26/07
William Thomas discusses chemtrails with Meria Heller, who says:

“Will Thomas is an author, journalist, photographer and filmmaker. We discuss his excellent book “Chemtrails Confirmed”. chemtrail awakening, sign the chemtrail petitions on his site; USAF new fleet of aerial tanker planes; Visual stealth technology; people only see what’s in their consciousness; NBC & Discovery on chemtrails; Morgollon’s disease; contrails vs. chemtrails; humidity and contrails; are contrails harmless? vaccines, sedatives; biological warfare under the cloak of darkness; quartz particles – transmitters of energy; electromagnetic pollution; scrambling our brains; how to protect yourself; fungus in the blood of 99% of chemtrail patients; last gasp of outdated paradigm; symptoms of chemtrail poisoning; HAARP; tunable polymers; biowarfare experiments since the 50’s; Zombie Nation – why the lack of awareness & outcry?” (12 min.)

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7 Responses to “WILLIAM THOMAS DISCUSSES CHEMTRAILS WITH MERIA HELLER”

  1. Hi dear whill, i’m onored to whrite in your site. I’m an italian person tath fight against chemtrail about to 5 yars.
    In 2003 i have see a documentari macked from vincent gambino, with a your interwiev and my life is changed. I’m a soldier tath fight against this orrible destiny. Nice to can help you.
    Sorry for my bad eng.
    oseido

    http://chemtrail.dyndns.org

  2. do u think the chemicals in the upper atmosphere mosly sulphur/barium, and the chemtrails play a part in the next fungi deadly virrus.

  3. Hundreds of scientific papers indicating that persistent contrails will increase in proportion with the increase in air traffic have been published in the last quarter of a century, most, if not all, preceding the “chemtrails” hypothesis.

    If there were any truth in this crackpot theory, then at least ONE atmospheric scientist would be saying something, but NO – you don’t find a single scientist qualified in atmospheric science ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD who subscribes to this, er, theory.

    That’s because it’s BAD SCIENCE, bearing no relationship to the real world, supported by people who know so little about the science involved or scientific discipline and interpretation that they have no idea how silly they look – to a scientist.

    They may well look OK to each other and the general public, but only a couple of instances have occurred when they penetrated the media – one, where they superimposed entirely different text over a German video, and the other where they misread roadside water samples in a barium mining area by a factor of a THOUSAND.

    Not very good results, but one shouldn’t expect CHICKEN LITTLE to be up to much… …he’s too busy selling tinfoil hats…

  4. Hi jazzroc,
    No tinfoil hats available, sorry.

    Actually, science shows contrails decreasing. NASA’s 2001 contrail study shows the month of Thanksgiving to be the heaviest air traffic month in the U.S. – with the highest occurrence of contrails in the Pacific Northwest. (Where I live.) This region, as well as central Canada and the eastern Midwestern U.S see twice the number of contrails as the continental average.

    But in December 2001 the distribution and magnitude of potential contrails “changed dramatically” said NASA – not because of September 11, but as a result of radical, unexpected changes in weather patterns. Even in the contrail congested Portland and Seattle areas, contrail frequency dropped well below continental averages. Presented to the “10th Conference on Aviation, Range, and Aerospace Meteorology” in heavily chemtrailed Portland, Oregon in May 2002, NASA’s newest findings show that contrail coverage over the North Atlantic and central Europe remains “significantly smaller than those given” in 1994. Ditto the Pacific Northwest. Despite significant increases in air traffic.

    Try telling Leslie that jet plumes are decreasing. That same November – with far fewer contrails showing up than predicted and photographs and eyewitness reports of persistent white plumes left by high-flying jets flooding the Internet – this school teacher took a trip from Las Vegas and encountered persistent, wide-spread plumes “up to Reno, over to Sacramento, up to Portland, Oregon, and then over through Idaho and down through Wyoming into Denver and back to Las Vegas… We covered six states in four days and saw them everywhere.”

    Leslie became “very, very sick”. It took almost two months for her lungs to clear from something “almost exactly like a whooping cough I got ten or so years ago that turned out to be a lung fungal infection.” Ice crystal condensation trails do not cause fungal infections in the lungs. But airborne colonies of mutated molds and fungi brought down from the upper atmosphere by chemtrail fallout could cause symptoms experienced by Leslie and tens of thousands of North Americans following chemtrail exposure.

    Still, many “chemtrails” are being reported as “contrails” – and vice-versa. When two different jets are visible simultaneously in the same airspace at close to the same altitude and one’s laying a thick plume and the other none – you know something unusual is going on. ATC radar operators around the USA confirm tracking plumes behind USAF tankers in “commanded” (reserved) airspace. (See my book, Chemtrails Confirmed.)

    And science ends the debate. NCAR atmospheric experts in Colorado insist that the only way to form persistent plumes behind aircraft at altitudes of humidity (dew point) less than 70% and temps warmer than -70F is to add more particulates to the exhaust than the NOx, sulfur and carbon normally present from combustion. NASA backs this atmospheric science. Weatherman Scott Stevens posted many photographs and discussed chemtrails on his former weatherwars.com site.

    Thank you again for your interest.

  5. Thank you for writing Oseido,

    Nice to hear from someone who saw Vincent’s documentary. I hope the EU takes action.

  6. I have zero evidence that chemtrails are deliberate bio-warfare. But two scientists who worked on this project at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base told a reporter they were concerned that these particles were bringing fungus, molds and viruses (known to swarm in the upper atmosphere) down to the surface where our immune systems would have no defense against them.

    Even so, this exposure would not necessarily be “deadly”. A strong immune system is the best defense – and stress wrecks immune systems. Thank you.

  7. Hi, William – I was wondering if there were ever to be a response to my comment, but I accept you may have been busy. Let’s both agree that tinfoil hats can probably be best pressed into service as baking trays, and I’ll put on my science hat.
    The job of scientists is to understand and explain the material world. This second action helps the rest of us to focus upon problems and come up with solutions to them. Difficulties occur when lay persons, unknowingly perhaps, interpret physical events incorrectly, and thus begin to sow seeds of distress throughout our society. This is such a difficulty. In order to attempt to solve this for you, I must address your points one-by-one, and apologise in advance for chopping up your prose.

    “science shows contrails decreasing”
    I’ll take your word for that (you’ve been doing the research) but can offer two points about that. Persistent trails are increasing exactly as air travel is increasing precisely because the airlines’ larger schedule is confronting our typical weather, which is, as you know, variable, and random. This means that on occasion there will less trails (possibly like now) while on other occasions there will be more. In our current financial crisis it may well be that overall flight numbers are falling, but I suspect not. The number of passengers in the air has increased by fifty times in fifty years, and this of course means that the amount of kerosine which has been and is being burnt to deposit ice (or water vapor) in our stratosphere has done the same.

    “the eastern Midwestern U.S sees twice the number of contrails as the continental average”
    That would be normal for a continent with many coastal cities. In the middle many routes must cross each other.

    “radical, unexpected changes in weather patterns”
    Is a bit of an oxymoron, don’t you think? Weather is by its naturemunpredictable – “butterfly effect”, etc.

    “heavily chemtrailed Portland”
    Whoops. A slip there? How would you possibly know that those were chemtrails?

    “NASA’s newest findings show that contrail coverage over the North Atlantic and central Europe remains “significantly smaller than those given” in 1994. Ditto the Pacific Northwest. Despite significant increases in air traffic.”
    I read the 1994 report. I’m relieved to hear it. It could be that the increased water in the stratosphere due to aviation (which daily adds a million tons of water) has found itself either above or below air traffic altitudes.

    “with far fewer contrails showing up than predicted and photographs and eyewitness reports of persistent white plumes left by high-flying jets flooding the Internet”
    Well – it could have been, but it wasn’t. It seems that the water was there, after all. It was in layers that were MORE HUMID than usual. Layers of the stratosphere which have a greater than average humidity WILL cause “persistent white plumes”.

    “Ice crystal condensation trails do not cause fungal infections in the lungs”
    Of course they don’t.

    “molds and fungi brought down from the upper atmosphere by chemtrail fallout”
    Molds and fungi don’t need “chemtrail fallout” to bring them down. An atmosphere saturated with water vapor in it will do that. In fact it MUST do that – that vapor NEEDS something to nucleate upon. This is why our atmosphere is basically clean in spite of the continual onslaught of fifteen hundred active volcanoes adding annually millions of tons of fine ash, and oxides of carbon and sulfur.

    “many “chemtrails” are being reported as “contrails” – and vice-versa”
    Just vice-versa. Chemtrails don’t exist. You haven’t proved their existence, nor has anyone else in the ten years of debate.

    “two different jets are visible simultaneously in the same airspace at close to the same altitude and one’s laying a thick plume and the other none – you know something unusual is going on”
    No, it is something USUAL that is going on. That is the USUAL failure to understand the STABLE nature of the stratosphere. Its stability causes its layering, and when you consider what that layering might be, it can ONLY be a layering of layers with different humidity. There is no reason for the lay person to know this, so a failure of interpretation takes place in the mind of the onlooker – the same sort of failure that takes place when people believe the Sun goes round the Earth. That is what their eyes tell them. That belief is no longer common only because of public acceptance of the scientific truth, which conflicts the evidence of their eyes.

    “ATC radar operators around the USA confirm tracking plumes behind USAF tankers in “commanded” (reserved) airspace”
    Tankers use the same engines as civil aircraft and must make the same plumes in similar conditions. Plumes of ice crystals will show up on radar tuned to the frequency of ice crystals. Nothing controversial there.

    “And science ends the debate. NCAR atmospheric experts in Colorado insist that the only way to form persistent plumes behind aircraft at altitudes of humidity (dew point) less than 70% and temps warmer than -70F is to add more particulates to the exhaust than the NOx, sulfur and carbon normally present from combustion. NASA backs this atmospheric science.”
    This isn’t true. Only a single molecule is required to seed a water droplet or ice crystal. The throughput of a fanjet travelling at eight hundred feet per second creates many more molecules than the minimum required to seed the trail by many orders of magnitude. A Wilson Cloud Chamber uses this same effect to render visible the passage of SINGLE alpha particles. A saturated atmosphere will do its best to nucleate upon anything. It will do so until there is no saturation pressure remaining. There will ALWAYS be a surplus of nucleating material left over, and the addition of further nucleating material could not possibly make any difference. I hope here these scientists are being misreported!

    “Weatherman Scott Stevens posted many photographs and discussed chemtrails on his former weatherwars.com site.”
    What can I say? There are scientists and ‘scientists’.

    “they were concerned that these particles were bringing fungus, molds and viruses (known to swarm in the upper atmosphere) down”
    I repeat what I have written above: nothing works better than a saturated atmosphere to bring particles down. If air travel is humidifying the atmosphere (and it obviously must), then these “swarming particles” will be brought down even more quickly. An increase in air travel (with its “persistent white plumes”) would seem here to be BENEFICIAL.

    “our immune systems would have no defense against them” – “exposure would not necessarily be ‘deadly’. A strong immune system is the best
    defense”
    You seem to have answered yourself here – no need for me to chip in. Except to remind you that these “particles” are part of Earth’s nature, as are we, and our continued existence stands as proof that we are equipped to deal with them.

    “and stress wrecks immune systems”
    And the inaccurate public respresentation of what appear to me to be natural events, as the accidental/deliberate poisoning of our air, is going to create public stress – is it not?
    This is why you find me here – to correct this inaccuracy. I consider you to be a professional person who is doing your best within the journalistic profession. You must know that first you must gather and report all the facts you can, and must inevitably cast your own interpretation upon them. The problems occur when your general knowledge isn’t up to the task of the interpretation. Water vapor is invisibly layered in the stratosphere where these “persistent white plumes” occur. The passage of a Boeing 747 through a saturated layer can precipitate 16 Kg of ice for every metre of forward flight. This means JUST ONE trans-USA jumbo flight can pull EIGHTY THOUSAND TONS OF ICE out of the sky…
    Makes you think, doesn’t it? Can you believe that?

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